Is there an equivalent of “redemption” in the Yogic system?

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Question:
Is there an equivalent of “redemption” in the Yogic system? Getting out of the trouble caused by Avidyā?

Response:
A complex question as all the major Religious traditions have different views as to what it is and how it works.

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Thus we can only know Avidyā through īśvara Praṇidhānā by……

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“Thus we can only know Avidyā through īśvara Praṇidhānā by action and its results.”
– TKV Desikachar France 1983

I feel reflecting on the recent three posts on Īśvara Praṇidhānā……

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I feel reflecting on the recent three posts on Īśvara Praṇidhānā from TKV Desikachar in relation to our actions needs to consider the Sat Viniyoga or appropriate application of the Citta or psyche in terms of:

Vikalpa or the ability to skilfully use imagination and fantasy.
Pramāṇa or the ability to skilfully use right perception.
Smṛti or the ability to skilfully use our memory of experiences.

And the Sat Viniyoga or appropriate application of Time In terms of its three faces – Past, Present and Future.
These two aspects psyche and time offer a myriad of combinations for reflection such as:

  • Past – “īśvara Praṇidhānā – How do we take the fruit of our action?”
    How skilful is my use of Pramāṇa around being present with possible impacts of previous actions?
  • Present – “The relationship we have developed with the fruits of our actions is īśvara Praṇidhānā
    How skilful is my use of Smṛti around being present with possible effects of current actions?
  • Future – “īśvara Praṇidhānā – What is our attitude towards our own action?”
    How skilful is my use of Vikalpa around possible outcomes of future actions?

The relationship we have developed with the fruits of our actions is……

The relationship we have developed with the fruits of our actions

“The relationship we have developed with the fruits of our actions is Īśvara Praṇidhānā
TKV Desikachar France 1983

īśvara Praṇidhānā – How do we take the fruit of our action?

How do we take the fruit of our action?

Īśvara Praṇidhānā – How do we take the fruits of our action?”
TKV Desikachar France 1983

īśvara Praṇidhānā – What is our attitude towards our own action?

What is our attitude towards our own action?

Īśvara Praṇidhānā
What is our attitude towards our own action?”
TKV Desikachar France 1983

The re-action of Tapas should lead you towards Svādhyāya……

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Svādhyāya
Reflecting on our actions will tell us something about oneself.
The word means going toward oneself.
The re-action of Tapas should lead you towards Svādhyāya.
Also means study of texts.
For example Haṭha Yoga Pradīpikā and Pūrṇa Matsyendrāsana.
Is the effect different from what it said will happen?
This leads to Svādhyāya and Anumāna or to a teacher.”
TKV Desikachar France 1983

What is Yoga? – An interview with Paul Harvey on BBC Radio Bristol 1986.

What is Yoga?

– An interview with Paul Harvey on BBC Radio Bristol Feb 1986.

I. Yoga is often portrayed as sitting still perhaps in rather bizarre positions communicating with the depths of human relaxation and comprehension. How accurate a picture is that?

I am delighted to welcome to the Programme this afternoon Paul Harvey who among other things teaches Yoga at the Centre for Yoga Studies in Bath and at the Whiteladies Natural Health Clinic. You also, I think, have a couple of diplomas haven’t you?

PH. Yes I have though I feel that my main training has come not from diploma work but from the closer experience of studying and practising Yoga in India.

I. You’ve only recently come back from India I know and you spent what two years or so in India in the late seventies or early eighties?

PH. Yes that’s right.

I. Where did your own interest in Yoga come from then Paul?

PH. My own interest in Yoga came from a vague understanding of Indian thought and Indian philosophy in the late sixties and early seventies and from looking at the idea of meditation and at what meditation was.

One of the first things I found was that I couldn’t sit still. It was impossible to sit because of the stiffness in my back and the discomfort in my legs and it was my wife who saw an advert for a Yoga class. This was in 1972.

I. But…..A Yoga class? One imagines them all sitting with their legs behind their neck in rather odd positions as I mentioned before. Was that the picture you had in your own mind of Yoga at that time?

PH. I’m sorry to say that the first class I went to was like that. The teacher stood on his head and waved his stomach in and out. He had a rather large stomach so it was quite an extraordinary sight and when we finished the class we all went down to the pub afterwards.

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Patañjali has proposed 3 approaches to verify the indications……

Patañjali has proposed 3 approaches to verify the indications.
Tapas – Process of action
FoodĀsanaPrāṇāyāma.
You will be doing something that you will not be habitually doing.
For example one day no salt, cigarettes, Prāṇāyāma.
Tapas is from the root to create thirst.
It means to deprive.
It will tell us about ourselves.
It will reveal our Saṃskāra and Pariṇāma or changes in ourselves.
From this Tapas we will start to get an indication of our individual nature.
For example active or lazy.
Tapas indicates the the beginning of the Bheda, through the Bhāva.”
– TKV Desikachar France 1983

The viniyoga of Planning Principles – 1 – According to the viniyoga of Yoga

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The viniyoga of Planning Principles 1 – According to the viniyoga of Yoga

Yoga Sūtra Chapter Three verse 6
tasya bhūmiṣu viniyogaḥ
“Its application is in stages.”

“The spirit of viniyoga is starting from where one finds oneself.
As everybody is different and changes from time to time,
there can be no common starting point and ready-made answers are useless.
The present situation must be examined and the habitually established status must be re-examined.”
– TKV Desikachar

Link to Post Series: The viniyoga of Planning Principles

108 Sūtra Study Pointers – 5 – Serve Yoga and Yoga will serve you.

Serve Yoga and Yoga will serve you.
– Reflection on Yoga Sūtra Chapter Two verse 21

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I was practicing yoga last week, still using the pin figures on……

I received this yesterday and thought it a quirky 25 year later feedback follow-on to my post yesterday on 121 teaching:

“Dear Paul,
I was practicing yoga last week, still using the pin figures on graph paper (once white that is now yellow) that you drew for me back in 1987 when I lived in Bath.
I thought that I would search for you and say thank you!
I still run and my body feels good and free – I am glad I met you when I did when I was starting to wreck my body with the running rather than open it.
I hope all is well with you.
Best wishes”

I also feel that 121 priorities must take precedence over workshops and……

Extract from an email sent today that I felt I would like to offer as a post:
‘I also feel that 121 teaching priorities must take precedence over workshops and trainings.
This is part of my Dharma to my teacher and to the essence of viniyoga.
I feel that once we cease to be chronologically or financially available as a 121 teacher,
in favour of being a group class, workshop or trainer teacher,
in terms of such as group size or financial benefits,
we lose our heart contact with the Paramparā,
as we have received it,
or as it was intended to be transmitted by T Krishnamacharya.’

Most important, if we make a fundamental mistake about the student or……

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“Most important, if we make a fundamental mistake about the student or the teacher,
then everything else is wrong.”
– TKV Desikachar France 1983

There are also other practices such as such as during certain……

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“There are also other practices such as during certain moon phases.
These help prepare us for the eventuality.
Still more variations according to a persons background.
How do we adapt these ideas in our Yoga Sādhana?”
– TKV Desikachar France 1983

If you respect India and Indians don’t make a joke of OM.

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“If you respect India and Indians don’t make a joke of OM.”
TKV Desikachar – Lecture on September 5th 1983 in Zinal, Switzerland (Fuller notes on this lecture yet to be posted)

According to Manu’s authority of behaviour, in Kālī Yuga Saṃyāsa……

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“According to Manu’s authority on behaviour,
in Kālī Yuga Saṃnyāsa is not possible!
Sthiti Krama is a transition to the next stage
where you begin to accept the inevitable.
There is a great Saṃskāra of youth.
We then accept that there will be a setting of the Sun.
You eat less, reflect more, you think of God.
This is Saṃhāra Krama.”
TKV Desikachar France 1983

Sāṃkhya will not make sense to those people who have not……

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Sāṃkhya will not make sense to those people who have not tried anything.
i.e. Prayer, Mantra, Medicine.”
– TKV Desikachar Madras November 24th 1979 on Sāṃkhya and Yoga

Sāṃkhya proposes a permanent solution to suffering……

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Sāṃkhya proposes a permanent solution to suffering.
If we look and see.
And see what produces what we see.”
– TKV Desikachar India 1979 on Sāṃkhya and Yoga

The means to knowledge i.e. our method of knowing, involves a……

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“The means to knowledge
i.e. our method of knowing (Pramāṇa – right perception), involves a progression,
a movement from Āgama (authentic teachings),
what we hear or perceive or learn from authoritative sources;
to Pratyakṣa (through the senses) to see the fire, itself, the fact, the truth, the reality.
Such a means to know is a movement from the gross to the subtle.
In Vikalpa, we don’t have this progression.”
TKV Desikachar Madras December 19th 1988

Through Vikalpa, the mind fabricates thoughts of no essence……

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“Through Vikalpa,
the mind fabricates thoughts of no essence, no substance;
and since meditation is, for most of us, the play of the mind,
Vikalpa is the greatest obstacle.”
TKV Desikachar Madras December 19th 1988

The biggest obstacle to meditation is Vikalpa……

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“The biggest obstacle to meditation is Vikalpa,
the ability of the mind to fabricate in spite of reality.”
KV Desikachar Madras December 19th 1988

The Significance of the PĀDUKA……

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Released on the occasion of the Pāduka Pratiṣṭhā of Sri T Krishnamacharya on 15th March 1991 by the KYM.

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Sthiti Krama – Having grown, not to become old too soon

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Sthiti Krama
Having grown, not to become old too soon,
let us maintain a status quo.
Sthiti Krama is for a person who has responsibilities, marriage, work.
No longer a full time student.
Still time for Svādhyāya.
Preservation of what you have received as a student.
So Sthiti Krama very critical in one’s life.
The difference is that you have your own responsibilities.
You cannot forsake them to study this or that.
Considered important because it is a challenge from 25-60 to sustain this position.
Because it is very difficult, there is a great excuse for escaping Svādhyāya.
We must do it to handle or approach problems around us – children, students, etc.”
– TKV Desikachar France August 1983

108 Yoga Practice Pointers – 3 – Adapting the form of Yoga is one thing……

Adapting the form of Yoga is one thing.
Adapting the roots of Yoga another.
Better not to confuse the two when choosing.

Link to Series: 108 Yoga Practice Pointers